Ry Its not a medical experiment so it won't hurt at all! I've measured mine to be around 1970mm; maybe I'd doing something wrong. You also count the teeth on the other gear, the driven gear. If you find a number that looks way wacky or out of spec, let me know and I'll look into it. The overall drive ratio of the 5-speed in 4th gear is 3. It was provided to me by Collin from Techtonics.
Ryan There are two different ratio sets for the North American 6-speed manuals - 2010+ model year is different taller from 2009. The main shaft is a 12T gear, the pinion shaft is a 38T gear, and the idler is a 20T gear. Why would I regret going for longer gears on standard power? In for a clutch at the local garage and to query a noise in 5th and 2nd gear. Haha I reckon we'll see soon enough Mr. Overall Gearing of the Manual-- 13. I'm also not sure if you have to change the differential housing with output gear which would be 1A on the drawing bellow, this is all just info i've found elsewhere and am putting into this thread! I have heard people mention the Diesel ratio's but are they much better? What this allows is the input shaft to move backwards and forwards within the gearset and touch other gears hence the noise. I have other questions regarding shifting too, but perhaps I'll start a new thread.
You count the teeth on the gear that gets the power, the driving gear. It's interesting that the manual and 'automatic' are so similar. The 02S Boxes are pretty hard to source and are more of a 'light duty' box due to the double shaft as opposed to the triple shaft of the 02M and 02Q so would be more suited to a high revving, low torque setup, rather than a high torque diesel. Find your trans code on the bottom of the trans, in the yellow square in this pic. A ratio is nothing more than a division problem, dividing one number into another. A in another thread produces interesting specs on the canadian vw page. The 2010 6 speed has a final drive ration in 6th of 1.
However, from what I hear, the ratios are very low if someone has a subcode I can get the ratios and they are fitted to 2009+ cars, so will be very expensive and rare in junkyards. I have heard people mention the Diesel ratio's but are they much better? I don't vouch for how accurate this chart is, there may be other errors! It is a 3rd gear that is moved to mesh between the pinion and main shafts, effectively making the trans have 3 shafts, which will reverse the direction of the ring gear in relation to the engine direction. A note on the way the tooth counts are listed. You need to replace both shafts in the gearbox, basically find a donor box and replace all the internals. You physically cant just change a gear or two. From my research, it looks like it is no more parts than for the A4 Golf, but this will become clear soon when the first setup is installed. It's apparently stronger and has beefier gears, ratio's are very close to standard R32.
Kit ofcourse compatible with all available original Final Drives. The rpm's seem to be around 1500rpm and the car cruises along nicely. Hi Guys, Most of you won't have probably had much contact with me as I have dealt mainly with A4 Golf Parts, but I am moving with the times, and responding to customer requests! It also contains text files with the ratios for the 02A, 020, etc. Keep in mind this is not an exact number as there is no way to compensate for difference in manufactuering tolerances, tire wear, varying amounts of air in the tire, etc. Theres a couple of people who have done the mod on here who could help you out, By donor box i mean keep your original box, remove the gear and use another 6 speed gearbox as a donor for the new ratios, shafts, bearings, etc.
In other makes, autos have more conservative ratios. Please note there is also a webpage of Group-buys are permited if sponsored by a registered vendor. You will definitely regret going longer gears on a standard or mildly tuned R32. These vibrations can eventually lead to cracks in the casing and in worst cases, can break away completely leaving a gaping hole in the end of the casing. Could do with advice on ease and cost, the box is coming out anyway so just need a rough idea of ratio costs and what can be achieved? They are all based on the 02Q Box, which is an uprated version of the 02M found in the A4 Golfs. Thanks in advance for any info!! You physically cant just change a gear or two. The net result is the same exponential gear multiplication as a single final tranny.
All of the 020 use the same 1st gear ratio. This can become a major problem especially on vehicles with high torque figures. The problem is caused by high amounts of vibration being transferred through the gears. Both trannies have two final gears, one for 1st-4th, the second for 5th-6th. Does anyone know how much your looking at for a donner Diesel box? I decided against it as the car would have been off the road a lot longer. To start a post, you must be a.
The Input or Main Shaft on the left, with the 1st and 2nd driving gear machined directly onto the shaft. I'd imagine the total cost would run over £700 easy You need to replace both shafts in the gearbox, basically find a donor box and replace all the internals. From my research there are 2 main groups of subcode with the same ratios there are 4 groups in total, but the other 2 have almost the same ratios as the 5 speed so I have left them out. Got an interesting delivery tomorrow too. Couldn't you just use the R32 box as the donor and change the gears? The apparent or rather visible fault is excessive play in the input shaft 2-3 mm of travel. This is just an approximation, but it should be close. In any case the figures on the left in the table above seem a little on the high side but anyway, this is how I measured mine: 1.
I decided against it as the car would have been off the road a lot longer. Now, when it comes to accelerating in this scenario using my 6th gear , the rpm's increase slowly upto 2000rpm slow acceleration but after 2000rpm the engine seems to increase rpm rather quicker. Here is a great page covering the codes, dates, and the country of mfg. It's interesting that the manual and 'automatic' are so similar. I'm also not sure if you have to change the differential housing with output gear which would be 1A on the drawing bellow, this is all just info i've found elsewhere and am putting into this thread! Overall drive ratio in 6th: Stock 5-speed 2. The direction of the gears under load is shown here.
The only issue left to resolve is the actual fitment of the setup, and working out what needs to be replaced and what can stay. With the same fault as the Passat above the car was driven with a failing Clutch and increasingly low oil due to leakage. Does anyone know how much your looking at for a donner Diesel box? I've been researching and what i've found is. In other makes, autos have more conservative ratios. Its impossible say how much torque can handle - 02Q gearboxes use it succesfully with over 600 Nm, also our gearkits are designed as racing equipment - to be strong and can handle high power and torque - its main focus, durability is not so important - its not recomended use it in street use with high millage - also with low power and used on long distances thousands km can wear surafce of teeth! Did you manage to get in touch with anybody that specialises in these mods? Divide the driven number by the driving number to get the ratio, or the number of times it takes the driving gear to turn the driven gear one full revolution.